What are you going to be asking? Guru Sahib is here to save your soul from being impure, not telling you to follow Maya. Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji(blessed light of Vaheguru:) isn't someone who just comes out for advice like this. Even if in the future you do hypothetically marry this specific girl, wouldn't it be better for both of you, if you let her study and become something or you study and become something instead of some bogus half-relationship.
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Will maharaj listen to me
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Since there's 2 new mods could you tell us who they are, so in case there's future conflicts the Sangat could get it settled by them if you aren't currently here.
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Is khalsa aid wasting sangats resources on rohingya?
Your only problem with Rohangya is that they are Muslims.I bet if today Rohangya people convert to Sikhisim or Hinduism you would be the first one to support them and condemn burmese govt.I can't belive how you people are justifying the genocide of rohangya and at the same time many of you people have the audacity to shout sarbat da bhalla at the top of your head.So much for sarbat da bhalla huh
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Kharku Thread
Muslim bloke far let , who were Singhs training who with LET ,Inter Service Intelligence or Mugherdeen ? This cant be later than 1988.
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Kharku Thread
I think they mentioned in Hans raj Hans's Patta Patta Singhar the Vari song he refers to them as "touts"
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Sant baba ranjjit singh
These may or may not be true; I need my proof... regardless I would imagine there must have been a reason to call off the meeting
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Sant baba ranjjit singh
Logic is not a good place to start from in Gurmat. Gurmat is far beyond logic. These missionaries use logic because they try to pass Sikhi off as being appetising to a world that is very much in the grip of Kalyug. Dhadrianwala uses their logic on occasion. He has become very much like them in thought and some talk. Not all, because he knows there is a certain line he cannot cross. I think this Parmeshduar is going the same way as other cult deras, where the head is the main focus of worship rather than the Dharam itself.
I wonder why he would go to them? These people have done amrit sinchar omitting Dasam Banis and started their own rogi panth. What did Dhadrianwala say about that? Has he said anything at all about it? Now he goes and stays with the very same people who did that henious act in America. No-one would go and stay with people who didn't support them fuly and vice-versa, no-one would entertain a parcharak who they didn't support fully.
Dhadrianwala knows that he cannot come straight out and speak against Dasam Granth, but he is taking the next step on the list and that is staying quiet despite all the false info being thrown around about Dasam Granth. If he truly was Panth-dardi he would have spoken out a long time ago. Instead he has forged strong links with these people.
Listen to this:
Only a few years ago, dhadrianwala was being called a boobna by rogi. now this boobna has become doobna and joined rogi.
Really? Who were these croonies? And when?
Because they are batting for the same side, just using different playing styles. Dhadrianwala has gone on record to say that he will only talk about Sri Guru Granth Sahib in his diwans a while back. Why? His chele have no need for Dasam granth, Bhai Gurdas Vaaran?
Is all of Gurmat in SGGS? Are there no aspects of Gurmat or Gursikhi jeevan not in SGGS?
Dhadrianwala exhorted the Sikhs to meet in Ludhiana for a dharna because of beadbi of SGGS. Him and gandpreet went there but when it turned violent, they went running straight into a police car. 2 Sikhs were killed by police there. Many people blame him for that, because he was the one who called for the action but ran when things got tough.
Makes no sense?
You can't see Guru Sahib not practicing what they are preaching?
Guru Arjan Dev Ji gave hukam to 6th Guru to keep weapons and fight against tyranny. Why didn't Guru Arjan Maharaj fight against Chandu himself?
Did Guru Nanak take a sword against Babur? Did Guru Gobind Singh Ji take a sword against Aurangzeb?
All the Gurus taught that Naam Simran is extremely important. If Guru Teg Bahadur Sahib did many years of Bhagti in a bhora how does that Guru Sahib any less? Also Guru Sahib did not do all that time while they were Guru. Most of that 26 years was when before Tyag Mal became Guru Teg Bahadur.
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Is khalsa aid wasting sangats resources on rohingya?
Just before coming on the forum about 10 mins ago, I had a flick through the Sky Tv Channels. At least 8 channels are fundraising for Rohingyas. I'm pretty sure that the Muslim community will be able to hold their own on this. There are thousands of poor Sikhs (and others) in India who could benefit from that KA help.
I dont want to be mean but there is no doubt in my mind that the international Islamic community would never come through to help the Sikhs.
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Is khalsa aid wasting sangats resources on rohingya?
The Rohingyas are a part of the demographic jihad, there is no such Sikh demographic jihad in Malaysia so your comparison fails. Also the Sikhs are a asset to any nation they migrate to, the same cannot be said of Muslims. You probably live in a make believe world that Muslims are great citizens and that Islam is some kind of gift that the Arabs gave to the world but whereas I wouldn't want to be so cruel as to burst your bubble but the truth is the opposite to what you believe. Muslims in which ever country they migrate to become a liability and a danger to the safety of other citizens of that country. More and more people are becoming aware of this and that is why Muslims are not wanted in any non-Muslim country. Don't be fooled by leftist fools holding up 'refugees welcome' banners in the west. A few months ago an opinion found that a majority of Europeans want an END to all Muslim migration into Europe. I hate Modi but in this case he is 100% right. The Rohingyas should be deported to Bangladesh without fail as well as the 20 million illegal Bangladeshsi in India.
There are already Rohingyas in Pakistan and they are at the bottom rung of Pakistani society. I doubt Pakistan would allow Rohingyas to migrate from Jammu to Pakistan. The Arab countries don't want the Rohingyas. Even though these Rohingyas would be the first to demonstrate against Israel if Israel did anything to the Palestinians. Muslim govts don't want Muslim refugees. Maybe this is because the govts knows what Muslims are like and they can only control a certain number and any more than that it would be chaos. There are still lakhs of Muslim Biharis in Bangladesh who fought on the side of the Pakistan during the Bangladesh war and they haven't been allowed to go to Pakistan in over 40 years and you think Pakistan would allow Rohingyas there!
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Is khalsa aid wasting sangats resources on rohingya?
Fair enough but if there 10 others in front of you, then do you need to push to the front to help?
The Rohinhgyas are getting a lot of international aid, and have been helped by golbal Muslim community for the last 2 or 3 years at least. Where did the Rohingyas get the weapons to attack over 30 police posts and other army posts to start this current phase of violence?
Absolutely.
It looks like this to me as well. The fact is that every day, people all over the world starve to death. In India their own govt figures say that 7000 people, yes thats seven thousand people died on average every day from wont of food. And KA has 2.5 million in bank?
It has been proved by Kosovo. These Albanians infiltrated that land to such a degree that they outnumbered the Serbs and took over the land and threw the Serbs out.
Also remember that there was a fair population of Kashmeri Muslims settled in Panjab swelling their number up and taking away so much land they were not entitled to .
That is not true at all. For some years now I have seen on Muslim Tv channels very regular fund-raising schemes for Rohingyas.
Help Rohingya? We can't help our own, how can we help anyone else?
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Sant baba ranjjit singh
Logic isn't a good place to start in gurbani? Really? What's the first pauri in japji sahib?
"Sochay soch Na hovaee je sochee lakh vaar, chupay chup Na hovee je layee raha liv taar"
clean yourself thousands of times, you won't get clean.. be quiet forever but your mind won't shut up..
Tell me now brother? It is effective, Dhandrian wale has influenced panjab quite effective..
If it does become a cult, then it's no longer sikhi; but only talk once it becomes a cult..
He mentions them.. what are you on about bro?
When did the 5th guru tell the 6th to take arms... Guru Hargobind ji made there own hukam
Yes guru sahib took arms; how is this against my statement?
If guru sahib was doing parchar during that time, and simran in there mind, how does that make them any less? How does a samadhi make them more?
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Is khalsa aid wasting sangats resources on rohingya?
It wasn't a Muslim doing something stupid, it was a Muslim following the dictates of Mohammed treating a non-Muslim girl as his sex slave, the same as Mohammed allowed his followers. In fact that same that happened in most every country that Muslims have settled in. So this kind of treatment of non-Muslim girls is an Islamic trait. So if the Burmese start to riot because they see an Islamic trait being exercised in their country then you cannot really blame them. The Muslim rape jihad in Europe is well known around the world now so the Burmese do not want their women to face the same thing.
You are right, the Rohingyas were on the British side during WW2 but do you also know that the Rohingyas used the weapons given to them by the British to defend Rakhine from the Japanese to attack and kill Buddhists. This is where the animosity stems from.
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Sant baba ranjjit singh
Tell you what? What has that line got to do with logic?
Yes like al the other cults, he has been successful in establishing a very firm chela base.
Well, think about it. Dhadrianwala has not talked once about darshan rogi. His chele don't say anything anout his silence. . darshan rogi starts his own rogi panth, dhadrianwala says nothing, chele are quiet. dhadrianwala goes to stay with biggest rogi supporters in usa, his chele are quiet. His chele are more interested in dhadrianwala than Guru Sahib's Panth. What does that tell you bro?
It may be a little late to think about whether its become a cult or not. The answer is there.
And isnt dhadrianwala a hypocrit? Grewal goes to Jhootha Sauda, dhadrianwala goes to darshan rogis biggest supporters in USA. Dhadrianwala cals Grewal out for going to dera againt Sikhi, yet he himself goes to stay with those against the Guru Khalsa Panth.
Does he? A while back he said that he has only faith in SGGS and no other text, and that from now on he will only do parchar of SGGS.
The historical texts tell us that befoire leaving for Lahore, Guru Arjan gave this hukam to Guru Hargobind Patshah. Guru Sahib in turn gave a similiar hukam to Guru Har Rai, to keep horsemen, but not to commit to war.
Because you were using the statement that Guru Nanak Maharaj made to Siddhs to prove that Guru Teg Bahadur could not have done bhagti in a bhora.
It doesn't. Guru Sahib was born in 1621, and became Guru in 1664. So that means that they were already 43 when They became Guru. So what is there to say that they absolutely couldn't have done 26 years of Prema-Bhagti ?
The people who started this nonsense are those who do not beleive in any kind of meditation. Doesn't that tell you anything bro?
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Here's whats happening for those who still think its ok with these missionaries folks:
ਹਰਨੇਕਸਿਓਰੇਡੀਓਵਿਰਸੇਵਾਲਾਕਹਿੰਦਾਕੇਗੁਰੂਜੀਆਮਮਨੁੱਖਸਨਤੇਜਿੰਦਗੀਵਿੱਚਗ਼ਲਤਫੈਂਸਲੇਕੀਤੇ, ਕਹਿੰਦਾਅੱਠਵੇਂਪਾਤਸ਼ਾਹਨੂੰਗੁਰਗੱਦੀਦੇਣਾਵੀਗ਼ਲਤਫੈਂਸਲਾਸੀ, ਇਸਦੇਮੁਤਾਬਕਗੁਰੂਸਾਹਿਬਜੀਜੀਵਨਗੁਰਬਾਣੀਤੋਂਉਲਟਸੀ .. ਬਾਕੀਤੁਸੀਂਸਭਸੁਣਕੇਪਹਿਚਾਣਤੁਸੀਂਆਪਕਰਲਵੋਸਿੱਖੀਬਾਣੇਵਿੱਚਇਹਬੰਦਾਕੌਣਹੈ ?
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Brother, all forum sewadar stays gupt and we are keeping that way since beginning. I don't do much moderating anymore.
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Is khalsa aid wasting sangats resources on rohingya?
If Rohingya become Sikh or Hindu or even Jehovah's witnesses then they obviously stop being a part of the Islamic demographic jihad and stop being a threat to other Burmese communities and would not be kicked out of Burma. In a Jihad there are obviously two sides and you can't expect Sikhs to support the side that is engaged in trying to amalgamate the area of another country into a Muslim state.
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Ravi Singh needs a Nobel Prize
I agree with the notion that we must first succeed as a community ourselves, before going out and fixing the issues of others, and of course, charity begins at home. However, what Ravi Singh is doing isn't bad at all. I think we as a community have developed a very bad habit of criticizing each other for any achievements whatsoever. I agree that Ravi Singh should be doing more for Sikh issues, but he's also not doing anything bad either, he's instead following Sikhi by helping people irrespective of their faith, creed, ethnicity (so basically recognizing the human race as one). I think we need to overlook some of his faults (which I agree he does have, but who doesn't) and instead see how we can get not only him more exposure, but our community good exposure as well. Name one Sikh that has won a Nobel Prize, none. It wouldn't hurt to have one, and so if there's a likely candidate such as Ravi Singh, why not back him up?
@jkvlondon Of course the reward of seva is unmatched by anything, however a Sikh getting a Nobel Prize is a great achievement for our community, collectively. So I don't see what's wrong in helping Ravi Singh achieve that goal, which is ultimately a communal goal.
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Will maharaj listen to me
I've never heard a 7th grader refer to themselves as "daas".
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Links/Important Info on Taksali/Nihang/AKJ/Nanaksari
The term Jatha is more puratan among Sikhs than the term sampradha. The term Sampradha you will not find in any puratan Sikh text. On the other hand since puratan times traditionally a Sikh leader has always been called a Jathedar(i.e. head of a Jatha). That's why even Taksal mahapurkhs would refer to Taksal as Jatha. The usage of the term Sampradha seems to have begun amongst the Sikhs since after the British conquest of Punjab. Before that it was always Dal, Panth, Jatha which was used to denote a Sikh group.
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Is khalsa aid wasting sangats resources on muslim rohingya?
Islam is two edged sword you can take any verse from it and use it for your personal gain.The point is we are not sure if that rapist was acting on the teaching of Muhammad or not (Rape is serious offence in Islam btw) may be he did so to take revenge.As rohangya Muslim women have been raped by peaceful buddhists. When you refuse to accept a group as citizen of your country and deny them citizenship merely on the basis that they are not part of Burmese society.And on top of that try to kill them and drove them out from your country,you're playing with fire.I hope no innocent Buddhist gets killed in the world for the action of these <banned word filter activated> Burmese.
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